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	<link>http://www.journal.clltopics.org/2008/03/26/day-zero/</link>
	<description>The Story of an Elective Cord Blood Stem Cell Transplant</description>
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		<title>By: Beth and John</title>
		<link>http://www.journal.clltopics.org/2008/03/26/day-zero/#comment-341</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth and John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are brave and wonderfuly.  Your ability to sort through the shit that is happening and lean into the next day--knowing that you can't change what happened, that you have to let people know how you feel about it, and then go on.  Which you are doing.  Which you have always done.  Blessings on you both, Beth and John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are brave and wonderfuly.  Your ability to sort through the shit that is happening and lean into the next day&#8211;knowing that you can&#8217;t change what happened, that you have to let people know how you feel about it, and then go on.  Which you are doing.  Which you have always done.  Blessings on you both, Beth and John</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret</title>
		<link>http://www.journal.clltopics.org/2008/03/26/day-zero/#comment-219</link>
		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.journal.clltopics.org/2008/03/26/day-zero/#comment-219</guid>
		<description>I also cringe at what Serena wrote in the "Day Zero" post.  I am not only a CLL club member but also a long time RN, NP, and also a nursing instructor.  I feel the need to address some of the problems stated above and in the comments.

The best institutions are on top of the non handwashing, dirty long sleeves, and "I'm above all of that" attitude.  I am in an ICU at a major medical center.  We have hooks outside of the ICU unit and outside each sub-unit for those white coats which have seen tons of outside material.  The rounding MDs are required to roll up their shirt sleeves to the elbows when they are in the unit, whether they are examining patients just now or not.  All staff are expected to wear short sleeve scrubs ("our patients deserve bare arms" is the slogan).  Hand washing audits are done every week by staff on this team and a percentage of MDs, xray, lab, and staff nursing handwashing before patient contact is published each month.  RNs are asked to remind physicians and others to wash their hands before they touch the patient.  Sanitizing foam cleanser is by each patient's bedside.

Because I have been a hospital staff RN for a very long time, I can say that "our" worst fear is making a mistake that will harm a patient.  Persons who make life-threatening mistakes in patient care are racked with guilt and many times suffer long-term depression.  That said, I would also recommend that you have a personal advocate and information checker with you when in the hospital.  Having someone with you like Serena is with Harvey helps both the patient and the staff.

My best wishes to Serena and Harvey for both healing and smoother days ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also cringe at what Serena wrote in the &#8220;Day Zero&#8221; post.  I am not only a CLL club member but also a long time RN, NP, and also a nursing instructor.  I feel the need to address some of the problems stated above and in the comments.</p>
<p>The best institutions are on top of the non handwashing, dirty long sleeves, and &#8220;I&#8217;m above all of that&#8221; attitude.  I am in an ICU at a major medical center.  We have hooks outside of the ICU unit and outside each sub-unit for those white coats which have seen tons of outside material.  The rounding MDs are required to roll up their shirt sleeves to the elbows when they are in the unit, whether they are examining patients just now or not.  All staff are expected to wear short sleeve scrubs (&#8221;our patients deserve bare arms&#8221; is the slogan).  Hand washing audits are done every week by staff on this team and a percentage of MDs, xray, lab, and staff nursing handwashing before patient contact is published each month.  RNs are asked to remind physicians and others to wash their hands before they touch the patient.  Sanitizing foam cleanser is by each patient&#8217;s bedside.</p>
<p>Because I have been a hospital staff RN for a very long time, I can say that &#8220;our&#8221; worst fear is making a mistake that will harm a patient.  Persons who make life-threatening mistakes in patient care are racked with guilt and many times suffer long-term depression.  That said, I would also recommend that you have a personal advocate and information checker with you when in the hospital.  Having someone with you like Serena is with Harvey helps both the patient and the staff.</p>
<p>My best wishes to Serena and Harvey for both healing and smoother days ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: Hardip and Robert Passananti</title>
		<link>http://www.journal.clltopics.org/2008/03/26/day-zero/#comment-215</link>
		<dc:creator>Hardip and Robert Passananti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.journal.clltopics.org/2008/03/26/day-zero/#comment-215</guid>
		<description>Hi Chaya,

Long time reader, first time poster.  My husband Robert was diagnosed with CLL in the fall of 2005 and I have been following CLL topics since then.  I want to thank you for the great site you have created.  It is the most informative CLL website I have found, bar none.  We both deeply appreciate the way you break things down and your writing style.  Yours is the first site we go to when we have to look anything up.  Robert will most likely be getting a transplant within the next year, so we are both following Harvey's journal with a great deal of interest.  Know that you are both in our prayers.

Kindly,
Hardip</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chaya,</p>
<p>Long time reader, first time poster.  My husband Robert was diagnosed with CLL in the fall of 2005 and I have been following CLL topics since then.  I want to thank you for the great site you have created.  It is the most informative CLL website I have found, bar none.  We both deeply appreciate the way you break things down and your writing style.  Yours is the first site we go to when we have to look anything up.  Robert will most likely be getting a transplant within the next year, so we are both following Harvey&#8217;s journal with a great deal of interest.  Know that you are both in our prayers.</p>
<p>Kindly,<br />
Hardip</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://www.journal.clltopics.org/2008/03/26/day-zero/#comment-187</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.journal.clltopics.org/2008/03/26/day-zero/#comment-187</guid>
		<description>To paraphrase Robert Burns, "The best laid plans of mice and men often go awry."

For all of their impressive policies and procedures, medical professionals are still only human, and as you said, just doing their jobs.  At night, while Serena and Harvey are pouring over their research and agonizing about the profound implications of a "flagged" unit of cord blood, those who ordered and performed the infusion are sitting at home on their sofas watching American Idol, eating pizza, and voting for contestant #3 on their cell phones.

I'm not trying to demean the commitment of medical practitioners, just suggesting that they are no different than the guy who services your car, and we (the consumers of medical care) are often guilty of placing too much confidence in them.  This does neither us nor them any favors.

Serena and Harvey are, by far, the most motivated parties in this endeavor, and they need to allow their motivation to extend into their relationship with the practitioners who are treating Harvey. There is no better way to ensure that Harvey will receive all the great care that he was promised.

Best wishes, you guys.  I am following your story with great admiration, hope and interest.

Regards,
Grant Davis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To paraphrase Robert Burns, &#8220;The best laid plans of mice and men often go awry.&#8221;</p>
<p>For all of their impressive policies and procedures, medical professionals are still only human, and as you said, just doing their jobs.  At night, while Serena and Harvey are pouring over their research and agonizing about the profound implications of a &#8220;flagged&#8221; unit of cord blood, those who ordered and performed the infusion are sitting at home on their sofas watching American Idol, eating pizza, and voting for contestant #3 on their cell phones.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to demean the commitment of medical practitioners, just suggesting that they are no different than the guy who services your car, and we (the consumers of medical care) are often guilty of placing too much confidence in them.  This does neither us nor them any favors.</p>
<p>Serena and Harvey are, by far, the most motivated parties in this endeavor, and they need to allow their motivation to extend into their relationship with the practitioners who are treating Harvey. There is no better way to ensure that Harvey will receive all the great care that he was promised.</p>
<p>Best wishes, you guys.  I am following your story with great admiration, hope and interest.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Grant Davis</p>
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		<title>By: David &#38; Marilyn</title>
		<link>http://www.journal.clltopics.org/2008/03/26/day-zero/#comment-186</link>
		<dc:creator>David &#38; Marilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.journal.clltopics.org/2008/03/26/day-zero/#comment-186</guid>
		<description>There seems to be no end to the incompetence, or lack of attention to detail (to put it politely), in medical institutions. Good ones, bad ones, middling ones. I cringed as I read every line of your entry, felt a lump in my throat, and I wasn't even there to experience it all in real time. One lesson I get from this is that no matter how prepared we are there are always things we don't know to expect. Who knew there was cell loss in thawing frozen cords? Who knew that nicking the bag was even a possibility, let alone would be a reality? It is so hard to handle curveballs when you're fully awake and functional, it's that much harder to do it when you're on Benadryl or worse, and it is not easy after you have been dealing every day with problems and crises. The other lesson I get here is that once the process has gone to a certain point, once you have had the irradiation and are ready, there is no going back. You are at the mercy of the fates, and the medical staff. If the latter are not always at their best, then I hope the former will smile kindly upon Harvey and his loving and faithful Serena!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be no end to the incompetence, or lack of attention to detail (to put it politely), in medical institutions. Good ones, bad ones, middling ones. I cringed as I read every line of your entry, felt a lump in my throat, and I wasn&#8217;t even there to experience it all in real time. One lesson I get from this is that no matter how prepared we are there are always things we don&#8217;t know to expect. Who knew there was cell loss in thawing frozen cords? Who knew that nicking the bag was even a possibility, let alone would be a reality? It is so hard to handle curveballs when you&#8217;re fully awake and functional, it&#8217;s that much harder to do it when you&#8217;re on Benadryl or worse, and it is not easy after you have been dealing every day with problems and crises. The other lesson I get here is that once the process has gone to a certain point, once you have had the irradiation and are ready, there is no going back. You are at the mercy of the fates, and the medical staff. If the latter are not always at their best, then I hope the former will smile kindly upon Harvey and his loving and faithful Serena!</p>
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		<title>By: Chaya</title>
		<link>http://www.journal.clltopics.org/2008/03/26/day-zero/#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator>Chaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.journal.clltopics.org/2008/03/26/day-zero/#comment-185</guid>
		<description>Thanks for all the comments and support! Keeping this journal updated is very much a two way street.  I hope you guys are getting something out of it.  &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I know I am&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. Reading what you have to say keeps me grounded and a whole lot less lonely.  Please keep it up - it is deeply appreciated.

Hospitals can be intimidating places. As soon as they put that plastic ID bracelet on your wrist, the institution and their processes take over. Even with the best of intentions and in the best of institutions, it is easy for the lone patient voice to get lost.  Especially if that patient is drugged up to the eyeballs.  One obvious lesson learned: if at all possible, make sure there is a strong and involved family member or advocate present to speak up for the patient. Maybe once we are all done with Harvey's transplant I should hang out my shingle as a professional patient advocate, ready to be hired by other CLL patients.  Right.  I can imagine various doctors cringing at the thought!

Looking over my post there is one thing I would like to change.  My comments about nutritional supplementation is out of line. Often, patients undergoing extensive therapy suffer from mucositis - sore mouth and ulcers along the GI tract are common.  And yet it is important to keep up the level of essential nutrition.  There is absolutely nothing wrong about getting intravenous supplementation to keep things on an even keel.  I apologize for the flip comment on that front.  I have edited it out that bit, so that people reading this post in the future do not have to deal with my unjustified snippy comment on that front.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the comments and support! Keeping this journal updated is very much a two way street.  I hope you guys are getting something out of it.  <em><strong>I know I am</strong></em>. Reading what you have to say keeps me grounded and a whole lot less lonely.  Please keep it up - it is deeply appreciated.</p>
<p>Hospitals can be intimidating places. As soon as they put that plastic ID bracelet on your wrist, the institution and their processes take over. Even with the best of intentions and in the best of institutions, it is easy for the lone patient voice to get lost.  Especially if that patient is drugged up to the eyeballs.  One obvious lesson learned: if at all possible, make sure there is a strong and involved family member or advocate present to speak up for the patient. Maybe once we are all done with Harvey&#8217;s transplant I should hang out my shingle as a professional patient advocate, ready to be hired by other CLL patients.  Right.  I can imagine various doctors cringing at the thought!</p>
<p>Looking over my post there is one thing I would like to change.  My comments about nutritional supplementation is out of line. Often, patients undergoing extensive therapy suffer from mucositis - sore mouth and ulcers along the GI tract are common.  And yet it is important to keep up the level of essential nutrition.  There is absolutely nothing wrong about getting intravenous supplementation to keep things on an even keel.  I apologize for the flip comment on that front.  I have edited it out that bit, so that people reading this post in the future do not have to deal with my unjustified snippy comment on that front.</p>
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		<title>By: dmackinnon</title>
		<link>http://www.journal.clltopics.org/2008/03/26/day-zero/#comment-184</link>
		<dc:creator>dmackinnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.journal.clltopics.org/2008/03/26/day-zero/#comment-184</guid>
		<description>Chaya and PC, this log with the nitty gritty of the cord transplant is a gem. I thank you very much for providing the details and the insights.  I hope the writing process is theraputic for you.  Above all, please keep up the good job on your oversight and may you have great success in the end which is what counts.
                   Best wishes,
                          Diane MacKinnon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chaya and PC, this log with the nitty gritty of the cord transplant is a gem. I thank you very much for providing the details and the insights.  I hope the writing process is theraputic for you.  Above all, please keep up the good job on your oversight and may you have great success in the end which is what counts.<br />
                   Best wishes,<br />
                          Diane MacKinnon</p>
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		<title>By: Beth and Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.journal.clltopics.org/2008/03/26/day-zero/#comment-183</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth and Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry you two had such an eventful day, what a series of events!  I believe that all workers in the chain should have a working knowledge of what the !@#! they are doing there.  So many times the problem could have been caught and assessed BEFORE the transplant, but the employees are all single minded and single trained!   Tell these people that step one to a checks/balances system is for every employee down the line to have a working knowledge of the whole.  As patients we have had to learn all of this, they can learn it too!  I hope you will be able to calm down after this storm Chaya.  I am only glad that the premeds kept dear Harvey from getting stressed.  Now if they would just share those premeds with you!!!
Love to you both. Beth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry you two had such an eventful day, what a series of events!  I believe that all workers in the chain should have a working knowledge of what the !@#! they are doing there.  So many times the problem could have been caught and assessed BEFORE the transplant, but the employees are all single minded and single trained!   Tell these people that step one to a checks/balances system is for every employee down the line to have a working knowledge of the whole.  As patients we have had to learn all of this, they can learn it too!  I hope you will be able to calm down after this storm Chaya.  I am only glad that the premeds kept dear Harvey from getting stressed.  Now if they would just share those premeds with you!!!<br />
Love to you both. Beth</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.journal.clltopics.org/2008/03/26/day-zero/#comment-182</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.journal.clltopics.org/2008/03/26/day-zero/#comment-182</guid>
		<description>Serena,

Whether you plucked that name out of the bag marked "Distilled Irony" or the bag marked "a'berah k'daberah" (what I speak I create), I do not know.  

You and Harvey are surely the most knowledgeable CLL patient and patient-spouse most hematologists/oncologists have ever encountered. Yet I doubt that even you guys would have imagined that Harvey's brave and calculated leap would provide such evidence that undergoing treatment for CLL and its cousins can be an extreme sport.

Your ability to write about this disturbing experience while it is so fresh and still reverberating in your entire being, and to do so with clarity and with thoughtful analysis -- and without @#$!$^%@&#38;* -- is remarkable and inspiring to everyone.  More important, Harvey benefits simply by knowing that such a person as you are near him, looking out for him, and caring for him.  Everyone who knows about you two is pulling for Harvey and wishing you and him all that is conveyed by your name.
     -- Jon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serena,</p>
<p>Whether you plucked that name out of the bag marked &#8220;Distilled Irony&#8221; or the bag marked &#8220;a&#8217;berah k&#8217;daberah&#8221; (what I speak I create), I do not know.  </p>
<p>You and Harvey are surely the most knowledgeable CLL patient and patient-spouse most hematologists/oncologists have ever encountered. Yet I doubt that even you guys would have imagined that Harvey&#8217;s brave and calculated leap would provide such evidence that undergoing treatment for CLL and its cousins can be an extreme sport.</p>
<p>Your ability to write about this disturbing experience while it is so fresh and still reverberating in your entire being, and to do so with clarity and with thoughtful analysis &#8212; and without @#$!$^%@&amp;* &#8212; is remarkable and inspiring to everyone.  More important, Harvey benefits simply by knowing that such a person as you are near him, looking out for him, and caring for him.  Everyone who knows about you two is pulling for Harvey and wishing you and him all that is conveyed by your name.<br />
     &#8212; Jon</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Grice</title>
		<link>http://www.journal.clltopics.org/2008/03/26/day-zero/#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Grice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chaya and Harvey,
Jenny Lou could not have said it better.  Our doctor's goof-ups pale in comparison with what has happened to you two.  Barb and I are sending our prayers your way every day.  Chaya, please take a moment or twenty for yourself as you have told me several times.  Heaven knows you don't need this stress nor obviously does Harvey need these complications.  
You are an inspiration to us all. Give yourself and Harvey a hug from us! 

Steve and Barb Grice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chaya and Harvey,<br />
Jenny Lou could not have said it better.  Our doctor&#8217;s goof-ups pale in comparison with what has happened to you two.  Barb and I are sending our prayers your way every day.  Chaya, please take a moment or twenty for yourself as you have told me several times.  Heaven knows you don&#8217;t need this stress nor obviously does Harvey need these complications.<br />
You are an inspiration to us all. Give yourself and Harvey a hug from us! </p>
<p>Steve and Barb Grice</p>
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